yeah, those are real, baby. good old housing happen. reference, a smattering of some sober reflection, as well, concerning libya. i would say even you would admit it was not the optimal response, at least to the american people as far as us all being on the same page. >> well, here's what i'll say. >> jon: yeah? >> if four americans get killed, it's not optimal. >> jon: guess which part of that lit up the conservative media complex? biden. no, that's not right. not right. ah, it was hash tag "not optimal." by 10:00 p.m.'s "on the record" with greta van susteren, senator john mccain expressed his deep and in no way opportunistic disappointment. >> even from someone like the president, who has never known what these kinds of tragedies are about and the service and sacrifice that people make, it is still just, you know, i can't even get angry. it's just so inappropriate.